Scotland isn't included coz by the time it all got set up the rain would be on.

Yeah they definatly should have mentioned pizza crunch and the old firm. Two terms I had previously unheard of prior to my emmigration to your fine country.

How do mastercard turn streets into neighbourhoods?

are you really surprised.
Nationwide sponser England football team, and in their proud advert they include the scottish customers as England supporters quoting something like 44 loyal supporters of the England Football team. Fucking mentally ignorant.

Your just paranoid, it's jumping out at you. THE BIG LUNCH we dont have lunch
big or small we have breakfast, diner then tea. "Your tea's oot"
"it's diner time"
Let the fannies have their big lunch we'll stick to diner

We should have the same but start it off with:

"We speak Glesga...
...Embra & TcheuchTer"
"We 'member Bannockburn...
...and the day Al Qaeda went to the errport"
"We invented everythin'...
...includin' fitba...
...and Archie Gemmill scored a goal..
...once"
"We eat everythin' deep fried"
"We're always on a downer"
"WE'RE THE PEOPLE OF SCOTLAND...
...AND WE'RE TAXIN' YER JAIKET"

was actually us who invented football. the cunts.

"We are the people of Britain..."

Does my fucking heid in. They want rid of us, don't they? They'd be happier if Scotland just broke away and drifted aff intae the North Sea.

Aw their references tae fitba. The only thing they've got tae be 'proud' of is a sport that sees many of them throwing plastic patio chairs aboot while running away fae a water cannon.

Fuck them.

I say we all write an email to complain to Mastercard about it.

To: mastercardpressoffice@webershandwick.com
cc: thomasgr@parliament.uk ; enquiries@asa.org.uk.

I've written one and sent it off already;

You're welcome to join in and edit this as needed:

Dear Sir,

In reference to your recent campaign and your national press advertisement:

Please understand that first and foremost I believe I am a British citizen however I also list my nationality as Scottish.

In your words "We are the people of Britain and we’re having a big lunch."

I find it odd that your recent campaign does not seem to include anything about being Scottish or Irish in your recent campaign to promote 'The Big Lunch'

Please also explain to me when exactly Britain won the World Cup. Twice.

I find this advertisement to be degrading, patronising and, moreover, an affront to any reasonable standards or accuracy which I would have expected an organisation of your size and stature.

I wish to complain about this insensitive treatment and would like to ask you to withdraw or amend this campaign and also publish an apology for the lack of thought you have given to my nation.

Yours
Michael Quinn

Don't see much about Northern Ireland in there either.

'We invented balaclavas with eye and mouth holes'

one word. dieenglishscum.

Actually made me shite oot a baby seal - and naw oot ma arse tae - right outta ma torso, left with a fucking gaping wound, the seal is pretty sound tho

REF-A-FUCKIN-RENDUM!!!!!

"We" can speak Welsh. All the people in Britain can speak Welsh. I'm going to a Welsh forum now to see how I get on. Cannae wait to see what my shite patter looks like in Welsh man, bet it's pure mad looking.

Oh aye, and I bet the guy at the barbeque would refer to "you Jocks up there".

mickredsun - I bet they'll be shitting themselves now, sad fuck

"was actually us who invented football. the cunts" as it was youse that invented football, pehaps that is the nod in the Scottish direction you're looking for... and it not without either a degree of self loathing or south facing xenophobia that you assume the "English scum" are taking credit for this easily researched fact.

I've got plenty of English pals and I'm always pulling them up about shit like this.
Its this sort of mentality that wind folk up, they just couldnt care less.

"REF-A-FUCKIN-RENDUM!!!!!"

Agreed. Stick your Trident up your arse and get your paws out of our North Sea.

Mickredsun - Very eloquently put. Wanks that they are. I'm usually too lazy and apathetic to protest about anything but that shit made me see red so I've copied and sent your wee letter (with a few edits so it didny look too dodgy. And obviously I'm no called Michael Quinn. Naw really, I'm no).

It was like the helicopter crash yesterday. 16 men die in the North Sea and the item is fucking half way down the teletext on SKY behind Jamie 'smug bawbag bad-speaking cunt' Oliver cooking Barak Obama's tea. If that helicopter had ditched in the English Channel it would have been the first item on the list.

Bigoted pricks.

'We speak Geordie and Scouse'...so they mean English?! It's an accent not a fucking language!

The advert must have been written by some American Mastercard advertising fat cat in New York who knows fuck all about Britain. 'Scotland? is that a place in England?' etc.

@mickredsun - send it to reporters@dailyrecord.co.uk and scottish-sun@the-sun.co.uk

theres 3 lunches in scotland
none in glasgow
none in ireland
literaly hundreds in england and wales



faslane has nukes right?

See they wee disposable barbecues?
I burnt my eyelashes wi wan oot the back once.
I'm a terrible advert for my country.

A think whit they're saying is WE speak geordie, meaning it's awright tae have Twenty's Plenty signs.
Any other cunt pickin' up this vibe?

We always look on the bright side.

we always look on the fucking bright side?

We are Mastercard we are for the English and the Welsh...

for everyone else *cough* scots *cough* there's a cash card, we suppose...what do you guys use up there anyway? can you read this right now? watch that debit card doesnt get wet with all that pissing rain you guys get....yous invented what? were responsible for what? surely not..!

They're clinging to that World cup thing like grim death, aren't they? Get it up ye England, get it right up ye. It's nice how MasterCard care about the decline of our communities. It's nice when an evil global corporation tells us what to think and do. gggrrrrr! I done the whole “get to know my community” thing and all i discovered was that my neighbours are a bunch of boring, gossiping wankers .

Any cosy faced english cunt invites me to a a barbeque will be shot in the head with a spear.

Funniest post in ages Limmy, well done.

Doogie Talons
"and it not without either a degree of self loathing or south facing xenophobia that you assume the “English scum” are taking credit for this easily researched fact."

Is Doogie the only person here fighting England's corner? C'mon, English folk, get stuck in and let's make this ugly.

All I'm saying is that poster has arguably only 7 "Nationalistic" Statements...

We Can Speak Welsh
Geordie and Scouse
We Remember the War and VE day
We Invented Football
And won the world cup twice
We eat Chicken Tikka and Fish and Chips
We always look on the bright side

It could be said that 4 can apply to the Scottish...

We Remember the War and VE day
We eat Chicken Tikka and Fish and Chips
We always look on the bright side (I have encounterd many an optimistic Scot)
We Invented Football

So you have a + 50% representation despite only making up 8.4% of the British Population. and your're all whining. That said let's scratch "We always look on the bright side" and you still have a 42% representation.

Its very well and good trying to reunite communities but what if your neighbours are aw curtain twitching cunts you'd be better off avoiding ?

Or is that the very attitude thats keeping our communities apart ?

Yeah, what the fuck? And I doubt they can speak Welsh.
And why Geordie and Scouse? That's just called 'English' surely. Idiots.
I don't think I want to throw a barbecue and invite the whole street, I doubt they'd chip in for anything and they'd expect drink, there's bound to be some vegetarians, people who only eat halal meat or whatever, different sauces for everyone. Also, for some reason you NEVER buy enough salad stuff or plastic square cheese... or buns for stuff. So it all sounds like one big fucking hassle.
Plus I'd need more than one barbecue, I'm guessing.
No, I'm out. I'd rather die alone having never known my neighbours than go through this hassle.

Fuck me ! when did England win the world cup !?

It's just like everything else since the Unionists started bricking it that independence was a genuine threat. New TV channels called "Blighty", "Best of British" in the supermarket, Team GB, even this new advert - every little bit is just a move to keep that good old "British Spirit" in the minds of Scots in a bid to keep them a part of the Union, and give them the ridiculous idea that we're actually part of something great.

Loadashite!

“WE’RE THE PEOPLE OF SCOTLAND…
…AND WE’RE TAXIN’ YER JAIKET”

That should be scotlands motto. And to be scottish it should be compulsary to have that tattooed to you somewhere. prefarably face.

xcx

Yawn. It's sooo boring listening to you petty minded Scotch. Do you all want a deep-fried Mars bar to go with that chip on your collective shoulder? You all need your default settings changed. It seems THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO BRING UP FOOTBALL AND THE WORLD CUP IS THE FUCKING SCOTCH!























Yes, I know it's not 'Scotch'.

lololol fuck they english cunts they can all die in a fire

a would also burn the englishman's baws in a barbacue fire for a laugh and say awrite ma man welcome tae glesga we ur fuckin mento and am gonnae have yer wife next yeeeha

BASTARDS! As I am just scanning down all the comments, sky news is on in the background, It has just come on about that helicopter crash yesterday, They show 8 pictures of some the people who died...BUT! They pick out 1 person for a special mention, The co-pilot, because he is from England!

Fucking hate England!

It gets worse: Gordon Brown is to give the president of Brazil an England shirt signed by David Beckham during his visit as part of the G20 summit.

i've only just realised that you can resize the comments box.

Aye, and you can have that Scotch cunt Gordon Brown back too.

If... like me... you were... a man... or... ha... a woman... of Christ... you would realise... that we are all... children... of God...

That is... apart from the patronising wee daftie... who came up with this insincere... smug... and insulting... rubbish.

He will surely... burn in Hell... for all eternity.

The late comedian... Bill Hicks... despite not being a man... of Christ... put it well when he said...

"By the way... if anyone here is in marketing... or advertising...kill yourself."

(Except he spoke... a wee bit faster... than me).

Right enough no mention of Scotland because obviously no-one in Scotland looks on the bright side of life. All to busy agonising over the culture significance credit card adverts.

Mind you, the advert doesn't seem to apply to anyone under the age of 70 either.

Saw this as well and being a sad cunt and part-time tartan terrorist had to gie them a healthy complaint:

"Dear Sirs,

As a long term mastercard customer I would greatly appreciate an explanation of the logic behind the current mastercard advertising campaign, as featured in the Scottish edition of today's Metro newspaper. It is my opinion that the article is either struggling with a kind of profound confusion or making a clumsy attempt at politics, either way it appears to wish to undermine the national identities of the people of these islands by obliquely attributing the achievements of the English national soccer and rugby teams to the rest of the nations whom at present make up the United Kingdom. If we leave aside the reduction of the Welsh language to a dialect by comparing it to Scouse and Geordie, the former alone manages to blunder it's way to raising the collective hackles of the "British" people in two very different ways:

1) The English people deserve to be credited for their sporting achievements - they are theirs, theirs alone, and are no way attributable to being British than say Spain's European win is to the rest of the EU. When you say British but mean English please just say English - it is not politically incorrect to do so. Additionally, by attributing these achievements to the British people as a whole you play into the hands of Celtic separatists who's opinions are further justified by the indifferent content of the media you choose to advertise in. As a militant Scottish Nationalist it would be rude of me not to at least thank you for the vindication.

2) The other nations of the UK have vehemently no interest in each other's sporting achievements - quite the opposite in fact, and one can almost feel the Northern Irish, Welsh and Scots bristling at Mastercard's condescending offer of English charity. To the Celtic Fringe faithful, it almost looks like Mastercard are being used to promote the controversial and universally abhorred 'Team GB'. I'm sure you'll agree that for a global brand to adopt such a stance would be a massive faux pas, and somewhat in-conducive to the sale of credit. I'm closing my accounts as you read this.

I appreciate that in these difficult times it is important to appeal to the grass roots of civic sensibilities in order to create brand loyalty for mastercard, but this attempt is perceivably just cack-handed propaganda. A better strategy would be to appeal directly to the four home nation's individual identities instead of shooting yourselves in the foot with London-centric cultural whitewashing.

I look forward to reading a considered response to these concerns.

Yours Sincerely,

Jock."

They've not replied. GIRFUT

Target audience

Fair play regarding the 'cultural significance of credit caird adverts' comment Dillert, but I couldnae agree less!

IMHO every time a Scot looks at this sort of nonsense and accepts it as relevant to him or herself a wee bit of Scotland dies.

Och it won't be long until we're a backwoods province of America Jnr anyway - might as well just bend over and take it. <=3

England must be the worst fuckin' place I've ever smelled.

Jock Sportif

I'm sure that Mastercard will treat your hugely important and lengthy letter with the due respect that it demands.

Good luck with getting a reply from them.

Not sure what they'll say though if they do. Either you want them to mention different parts of UK (in which case they're patronising) or they don't (and they are being London-centric).

London isn't England.
England isn't UK.

Scotland isn't Edinburgh
or Glasgow.

That's not a sentence electroRoss. Target audience what?

"All I’m saying is that poster has arguably only 7 “Nationalistic” Statements…

We Can Speak Welsh
Geordie and Scouse
We Remember the War and VE day
We Invented Football
And won the world cup twice
We eat Chicken Tikka and Fish and Chips
We always look on the bright side

It could be said that 4 can apply to the Scottish…

We Remember the War and VE day
We eat Chicken Tikka and Fish and Chips
We always look on the bright side (I have encounterd many an optimistic Scot)
We Invented Football

So you have a + 50% representation despite only making up 8.4% of the British Population. and your’re all whining. That said let’s scratch “We always look on the bright side” and you still have a 42% representation."

Absolute, complete, total, utter sense from Doogie.

The rest of you; chill, eh?!

Doogie talons we dont eat fish and chips we eat SAUSAGE SUPPERS!! Anyway, I'm not the most patriotic person but I do get annoyed with English media in general. Not particularly because they ignore us (I'm used to that) but when they talk crap about how amazin they are eg John Motson once said "If Michael Owen was Brazilian, he'd get into their team no bother". Crap for two reasons

1) Michael Owen isn't that good
2) There's an assumption in that statement that England have something the rest of the world want and it's clearly not true.

Antonio Meucci invented the telephone alexander graham bell stole his invention cos Meucci couldn't afford the patent!

so we've been livin a lie

'Lo Dillert,

Hmm, I don't consider my letter to have any particular importance and you're quite clearly underwhelmed by my small effort. I have to ask; does the urge to protest against such pish impart somekind of failing on my part or does your acceptance of it present a failing on yours?

What I want from them is for someone somewhere in that organisation to consider what it is that they are trying to say with that dumb fuck advert, and to also consider just how out of touch with (to quote Limmy) "the second largest country in Britain" they are. Typically they don't seem to know what is going on at all, and England is a country robbed of any sort of cultural identity other than thon 'British' thang which doesn't mean anything really. It's un-pc to call yourself English in England and I genuinely feel sorry for them in that.

Oh Come on you facking whining scotch gits You're lucky we took you under our wing.If we didn't you would still be running around it Stinking Tartan blankets with blue faces.Wee facking civilised you,you ungrateful lot.I wish you would all fack off.Try and go it alone see how long you will last.
It will be a right Larf for all us down here in Essex.

Well Tiffany, they didn't just leave Scotland out by accident did they? They weren't trying to create a flattering piece of art in the paper and simply forgot to include us.

They examined their target audience and created an advert that would appeal to them. Clearly if they had been looking to target the Scottish market they would have included something like creating cynicism, alcoholism, embarrassing football fans, tanning salons, laziness or haggis.

Getting all heat up about nothing, really what we have here is somebody in an office in Londonshire trying to be as patriotic as they can be. They have probably got a retreat in Wales so thats why they get a mention and scousers and geordies are pratically Scots anyway !

BTW a few years ago I worked with some of the guy's involved in the chopper crash, they were all good guy's. I used to have a laugh with one of them Nolan from Norwich he got pelters for being a carrot cruncher and a farmer, get off that tractor and the usual shite patter. He would hit back with the sweaty sock, mean stingy patter and we would laugh together. He would have been made up with that add saying see what I mean you jocks don't get a mention and we would hit back with the inventors patter. Now these guy's are no more, they were only trying to earn a living and get by, sad so sad.

"It's SHITE being Scottish! We're the lowest of the low. The scum of the fucking Earth! The most wretched, miserable, servile, pathetic trash that was ever shat into civilization. Some hate the English. I don't. They're just wankers. We, on the other hand, are COLONIZED by wankers. Can't even find a decent culture to be colonized BY."

Rent
“civilization... colonized”

What's wae the zedfest?

Brilliant find!

This sums it up. Actually instead of being a message of unity, inclusion and tolerance it divides 'us' with stereotypes - geordies and scoucers munchin curry and deep fried nosh and reminiscing about a war!? It excludes members of 'Britain' with the obvious ignorance towards Scotland. And, actually, with the use of terms like geordie and scouse it demostrates the level of INTOLERANCE 'Great Britain' has with diversity. The whole thing is actually a big peice of double speak. Britain - England. 'We can speak Welsh' - Wales is an English Principalty like Monaco is to France but with less autonomy.

Also, given that Mastercard is actually a company owned by the tens of thousands of banks they probably dont want to remind people of a Scottish influence when trying to sell credit as the high profile criminal bankers have been singled out as being guess what?.....SCOTTISH!

There were 4 guys up for 'investigation' into their irresponsible management. The BBC ran a story profiling who they were. Heres the interestin bit - they associate Scotland with the two Scottish guys but dont even mention where the other two are from?!?!...

'Sir Fred Goodwin (picture of him lit so his eyes and features darken)

- Former chief executive, RBS, 50
Salary: £1.3m plus £2.9m performance bonus (2007)
Born and raised in PAISLEY NEAR GLASGOW
Resignation announced in October 2008

Sir Tom Mckillop (picture of him sneering)

- Former chairman, Royal Bank of SCOTLAND, 65
Salary: £750,000 (2007)
Resignation announced in October 2008

Andy Hornby (well lit pic, but serious look on face)

- Former chief executive, HBOS, 42
Salary: £1.93m, including bonus and benefits (2007)
Joined HBOS from Asda in 1999
Resignation announced in October 2008

Lord Stevenson (cheery old lookin guy)

- Former chairman HBOS
Salary: £821,000 including benefits (2007)
Resignation announced in October 2008'



See...nae mention that these two other cunts are fae oxford and Suffolk....but they even tell ye Goodwin is fae Paisley...no just Glasgow...

Its tae build up resentment towards Scotland and say 'look they cannae handle their cash properly...so well no give them any mair and well budget the cunts!


Problem - reaction - solution

heres the link tae see fur yersel

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7880292.stm

It's no anti Scottish, it's indifference towards us, we are simply not in their thoughts too much doon there.
Britain is run by Scots FFS !

The nationality of the people who run Scotland is BRITISH! Brown is pro union and anti Nat...his nationality is British. FFS!

Let's start a petition for Mastercard to rebuild Hadrian's Wall, then we'll all be happy.

Ahahahhahaha, you dick!

We can build a wall with all the chips from our shoulders !

Ah fur fucks sake. Who cares? Lighten up ya shower a cunts.

Get this roon ye then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4-S8n8-9RU

This is shit. This and the thing that English bastards say when they mean Britain. What is it again? Oh yeah.

"England".

Oh aye and Britain's Got Talent forgot about Scotland? Boo fucking hoo. A show where they whittle a huge bunch ay annoying retarded deluded cunts down to a few annoying retarded cunts. Then we, the public, pick wan tae be thee annoying cunt to be inflicted on us like a self harm teenager drooling over Victor Morris's windae.
Scotland's annoying retarded deluded cunts were not given a fair chance to be thee annoying cunt. Well I say fuck them. We didn'y miss much there. Having said that, the arrogance of some folk in the south of England does claw ma grapes. I was in Brighton recently, at a party, fucked on pills after a club. Some cunt was phonin a guy to come round so he could buy ching aff him. I decided to get some too and this other boy pipes up.
"What is it your getting?'"
"Coke" I said in my normal glasgow accent. This cunt looks a me like I just shat in my hands.
He says "It's not got an 'r' in it."
I said "Whit?"
"Coke, it's not got an 'r' in it. Like a wine coke. It's pronounced 'Cowk'."
This wee cunt's anglin for a fuckin wine bottle oor the heed, and the wine CORK up his arse.. The type of wee fucker ye can tell shaves his baws. Everythin. Aw bald as a toad except for a wee velcro mustache above his walch. You know the sort. Ye can fuckin tell. He couldnae have made it more obvious if he hung his smooth shiny egg bag over the bridge ay ma nose like a bulbous saddle. What a complete fuck biscuit, giving me a mental eyeful of his shaven potato.

i hate this country.. permanently mock offended, outraged nobodies whose chip on the shoulder standpoint makes me want to vomit my haggis into my whisky, drink it, excrete it into a pizza, fold it in half, deep fry it and force myself to eat it.

Thread is void. If there was a street party roon his way wi free cakes etc Limmy would be first to attend it, cause he's a tight fistit sweet-toothed basturt.

inventit television ma erse

'inventit television ma erse'

Comment of the week.

WTF!!

I can't speak welsh, geordie or scouse. I was born waaay after THE war.. obviously been around for some, especially as the States have been at war non stop since THE war... still not born by VE day... China reckon they had football back when the dinosaurs where around or some bullshit.. England only won the world cup ONCE, you can't advertise things like that, half the HEAT lovin fools'll think they've won it twice now.. I don't eat Chicken Tikka, haven't had fish and chips in ages, alhough I do love it, maybe tonight... the Birtish are a bunch of moaning fucks, bright side my ass!!

So all in all.. a load of bollocks!! alhough I am in favour of communitys, less like to be robbed by someone you know... although statistically they are more likely to kill you.

We never invented the phone either, we stole it aff an italian called Antonio Meucci.

But we did invent - golf, penicillin, hypodermic needles, ginger hair, tartan , short breed, whiskey, sheep, radar, halloween, witch burning, killing englishmen, william wallace, deep fried everyhin, a cure for scurvy, pirates, the phone, football, rain, Auld Lang Syne, the decimal point, mastercard, fax machines, kilts, t in the park, marmalade, the steam engine, fridges and limmy.com/blog to name a few, preddy neat huh?

Limmy,

Who gives a fuck really. No point in getting upset. It is what it is. A load of shite.

They can choose to ignore Scottish achievements all they like but the fact that people get so upset about it worries me.

I think Scotland has a big chip on its shoulder sometimes.

"I think Scotland has a big chip on its shoulder sometimes."


A fritter, another hing the English claim to have invented. Makes ma blood boil !

To the guy who made the comment about building a wall with the chips on our shoulders...... yeah we could...... and it would keep the English out!!

It's time for you Scots to grow a pair of balls and actually govern your own country as an independent state then you won't have to deal with annoying ignorant adverts which envisage the UK as Greater England; which is essentially the case albeit Scotland is attempting to remain a distinct entity.

Also on independence, the rest of the world will start treating you like a country instead of a region of England as they do currently. It would seem to me that weak servile people like Dillert are holding Scotland back.

I found it quite shocking that Scots have to watch the BBC news with the whole programme devoted entirely to events, laws and sport in England (and Wales). That is worse than this advert.

Or we could just watch BBC scotland news, ya dick.

Seriously? This is something to get wound up about? Really?
Oh, and AGB, I'm sure Whiskey was invented by the Chinese, the telephone by an Italian, the oldest exampleof Tartan was found in Austria and if anyone 'invented' sheep, then I think us Welsh have more of a claim on that.
But you did invent Chicken Tikka Masala, which I see is mentioned in the ad.....
Fuss over nothing methinks.

I said the phone was an Italian invention, It was a joke that I should include it in the list , lizachristene. So shut yer hole, patronising bastard. Welsh patronising bastard. Female Welsh patronising bastard. Naw much going for you...

And with me mum being Scottish I'm truly fucked ain't I AGB?
At least being Welsh we have no false illusions of grandiour. We know we've contributed fuck all of any meaning, but at least we've managed to hold on to a bit of our culture. You can't even speak your own language for fucks sake.
I'm sure the reason the ad didn't mention Scotland is because, and lets be honest here, there really is not that much difference between you and England.
Not much going for me AGB? Pot, kettle, black?

AGB, lizachristene owned you.

Doogie "statistics" Taloons sucks dick!

I believe haggis was invented by the Romans.....

Just in case any cunt mentions it.....

And Tommy Sverige

Aye, nae bother mate, yer right, cause Sweden has some set of balls on it right enough..

Gies peace ya historically fence-sittin bastart.

I have no false illusions of grandiour, I was just having a laugh. Calm the fuck down. The only thing I hate more than arguing over the internet is Wales, now. Whats the point in speaking a language no one else speaks? Isnt that contradicting the point of language itself, communcation? You stay in your shite non-contributing country speaking your toungues to each other and let us, the northern English, get on with inventing things. Prick.

Prick Agb? You really know how to talk to a lady don't you? But I suppose it's better then being a female, welsh, patronising bastard. I feel like I've moved up in your estimation, and that makes me happy. Honestly, you should see me clapping my little hands together in joy...
Speaking a language no one else speaks? You mean like every other country with a national language? Thoughs pesky Germans muttering away, speaking in 'toungues'. Really, what's the point when no one else understands them? Apart from their fellow countrymen obviously.
Welsh may only be spoken in certain areas of Wales (and Patagonia), but it's still used to communicate. We can even form sentances and chat with each other, and just because you don't understand it doesn't make it pointless.
'Stay in your shite non-contributing country...'? You've gotta be joking. Got outta there the minute I could. Place is full of bloody Welsh people.

The cheese, salad and coleslaw fell out of my midnight snack from laughing at this post.

I R not amused. I've lost all the white sauce onto my plate and the carrot is just not as appealing anymore.

And I'm down to the outsidey crusts on my plain bread. Gutted.

Liza, congrats to the Welsh on maintaining their language - it is a major cultural coup (not cowp) and you are right to be proud. Please bear in mind however that Scottish Gaelic was the language of rebellion here and it was persecuted to near extinction, whereas the Welsh have been pretty compliant to the Brits since Owain Glyndwr popped his clogs. When was the last time the tanks were rolled out on Cardiff btw? In Glasgow it was 1919, and Scottish soldiers were locked in Maryhill barracks incase they turned against the loyal English and Welsh. The Welsh had long since rolled over I'm afraid.

Your idea that we aren't that much different to the English is utterly wrong. We have all of our institutions intact (educational, ecumenical, and legal) and Gaidhlig medium education is only about 40 years behind the Welsh equivalent (my children and my grandchildren will be fluent speakers) but hey, we always have the Scots leid if we ever want to slag off any English-folk that come into our shops ;-) . Our nationalist movement is considerably ahead of yours too and will hopefully prove to be successful without ever having to resort to violence again. All in all we're doing a bit better than Wales culturally and in most other respects - except for the fact that the standard of living in your Principality and the other economic basketcases (England and NI) is being maintained by the extraction of Scottish minerals when we could be a bit further away from our own breadline on our own. That's unfair unions for ye though.

Apologies for that guy calling you a prick though. Nae need for that.

Wales has a population of roughly 2.9 million people, and like you say , only some parts speak welsh (and Patagonia). Germany - 82.3 million people, big differance. Thats the last one , i cant be arsed.

Small country, small minds.

Glad I left.