Where's the video gone?? BBC not inty it?

you all sound like nut jobs and need the JW to brain wash you and change the filth in your heads.

You can't ever try and reason with these people. When I first came to Korea I allowed two Korean missionaries to come into my house because I was lonely and curious about what sect they belonged to (I was raised in a Born-Again Christian cult in the United States and so I retain a sort of morbid amusement and interest in what crazy shit people believe in.). BIG MISTAKE. Basically the story ends 3 months later with me cowering in a corner of my apartment with all the lights and electronics off trying to pretend I am not home as 3 extremely fervent cult members continued to pound on my door for about 20 minutes. Scary shite. These people believe that a Korean man in born in the 1950s was the second-coming of Christ and his daughter is the embodiment of God's love (they call her the Holy Mother) and no man will be allowed to enter the gates of heaven without the Holy Mother's blessing. This cult started in the 1970s in Korea and is now an international congregation with millions of members. They even celebrate the Penecost! Who does that?! They combine the Penecost and Passover and Easter into a kind of "Pentoverester". Don't talk to any crazy Christian people, they are like walking and talking fire and they try and ignite everything they touch. Stick to Protestants.

My sister's a Jehovah, converted by some nutjob and now she's infected with the taint. You cannot reason with them, they're given scripted answers for difficult questions by the church "elders", but it's all total guff. Torment them with the story of Lot, the man surrounded by sin in Sodom. God sends a couple of angels to warn him of the city's destruction, men of Sodom ask Lot to send out the angels so they can bum them. Lot, the man withot sin, instead offers up his daughters to the gang outside. Nice guy. Incidentally, his daughters later fill him with booze and shag him, becoming pregnant.

Don't fucking believe it - Daisy - you stole my thunder!!! Just saw your post and realised it's the same fucking website as the one I've just posted!!

just a few interesting example....

# If a man has sex with his father's wife, kill them both. 20:11

# If a man has sex with his daughter in law, kill them both. 20:12

# If a man has sex with another man, kill them both. 20:13

# If you "lie" with your wife and your mother-in-law (now that sounds fun!), then all three of your must be burned to death. 20:14

He likes a bit of the death, killing and ultra violence does that God bloke.

I love this site - no matter how you might try and read different things into it due to mis-translations, some of this shit is scary.... http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/

later

I just finished reading "God is Not Great" by Christopher Hitchens. However you feel about religion, you should read it. He isn't trying to trash people for their beliefs, he just makes a very good argument for why religion is used by evil people for evil purposes. I find Richard Dawkins very preachy and too often he sounds like the people he's fighting against but Hitchens presents his case much better, more a case of, "Here's the facts, make your own mind up".

By the way, do you think that the Jehovah's witness is studying his bible and posting his own video blog, in preparation for next saturday?

Check out http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/by.... Sorry, I don't know how to post it as a link.

Is Chavism a religion or just a way of life?

I got a bit bored after 5 minutes of this video blog. I don't care really, anyway if anybody wants a blood transfusion I'm your man, unless you're a Jehovah of course/

This is what you need to watch. These guys were funny....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkMlEGsaj9k

When i was a wean ma maw was not that interested in Jehovah`s witnesses and she told them that; but the folks then took their shoe and stopped my maw to close the door.
That really annoyed me and they then lost all my respect. Now as a believer i try to have some conversations with them and tell them if we all are believers and stuff then we can have a prayer meeting thegither.. but then they tells they only can have meetings with the sisters and brotherhoods in their communities and quickly disappears....

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I would say I was an atheist but that's like believe in nothing. [/quote]

Atheists believe in lots of things, but not imaginary sky fairies or the requirement to live your bigoted life by a 2000 year old book.

If you're struggling to find a term for yourself, try being a "godless heathen" like me.


[quote comment="68651"]"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." - the laddie Einstein.[/quote]

As in it should have some moral attachment to it such as: don't design a nuclear bomb just because you can.

There's a Jehovah's Witness turns up in every other episode of Casualty on the BBC on a Saturday night. There can't be many left, as they're dying at an incredible rate due to their distrust of blood transfusions

[quote comment="68776"]I shouted abuse at Jehovah's Witnesses a while back as they wouldn't go away after I told them quite politely (albeit through the closed door) that I didn't want to talk to them. They kept knocking for a fair bit and I went mental, shouting and swearing at them to get tae. Later on I realised I had left my keys in the door and the poor boys were no doubt trying to tell me. Still get a riddy thinking about that.[/quote]

oohhh, I've got a riddy for you.

I shouted abuse at Jehovah's Witnesses a while back as they wouldn't go away after I told them quite politely (albeit through the closed door) that I didn't want to talk to them. They kept knocking for a fair bit and I went mental, shouting and swearing at them to get tae. Later on I realised I had left my keys in the door and the poor boys were no doubt trying to tell me. Still get a riddy thinking about that.

background is in focus not you, sort it

Admirable stance Limmy, but ah widnae bother. You're not going to change their minds, all you'll end up with is agreeing to disagree, a lot of wasted time and severe emotional exhaustion. And that's no really aw that funny.

[quote comment="68642"]I remember that!! One of them was a brunette I think.[/quote]

You could be right. Whichever way you cut it, I wasn't getting no pussy no how aff they Jehovah's Witnesses.

My mum has an excellent way of getting rid of Jehovah's Witnesses from the door. She simply screams "get to fuck!" and slams the door in their face. Rude, but effective.

“Pitching head foremost” tripped up.
“Noisily burst into his midst” farted.
“His intestines were poured out” shat himself.

Is Jedi not a recognised religion now? Can you no hit them wae that wan? Tell him you've turned to the dark side? Let him talk you out of that!

I don't think Jehova's Wintnesses are Christians anyway, isn't their whole thing that they believe that Jesus was not the son of God and they're still waiting for their messiah? hence the name.

Limmy, you've pretty much summed up exactly how i feel about this. Whilst the Jehovah that visited you has stated his "if one part is false...." routine, you know, and we know, that he *will* try to talk his way around it once you show (so clearly) one example of a contradiction in the bible which he follows. If he doesn't, it makes a complete mockery of him and his faith.

I'm an atheist too, and this is the perfect example of why i struggle to find anything in relgion. I find it impossible to believe anything when there are so many questions that these kind of people can't, or won't answer. If it doesn't fall in line with their beliefs, then it's of no interest to them.

Saying that, if Prince came to the door with a signed copy of The Watchtower i'd probably invite him in....

"Jehovah’s Witness challenge".....wis that no a game on "It's a Knockout"?

fuckin hell! ye've got some long replies tae this wan.

No this wan but

no fae me

not a fuckin chance would i waste time on this religious shite

no that i think religion is shite

some folk need it

want it even

but naw, never would i lower masel tae chat aboot these folk who possibly mean well but only annoy and yes, in some cases intimdate . .

. . wi there latin fuckin phrases

fair play to them tho - but naw!

what a waste of their time and ours and . . . .

. . . oops!

Don't know where the two blonde birds came from, but the last time a gaggle of four jehovahs came down my street they lined up as follows:

-very old lady with a zimmer frame.
-young speccy cunt wae horrendous acne.
-business looking guy who looked like he was about to start greetin' any minute.
-sammy davis junior lookalike (who appeared to be the ringleader).

I mean I'll talk to any cunt usually, but when a mob like that turns up at your door on a Sunday morning it makes more sense to press mute on the telly and stay completely motionless on the couch until they go away.

I believe in God. I just I dont care that he exists.

So I do what I like. All the while not giving a fuck about the consequences that I believe in.

I think even if you hit that guy with 400 contradictions, he'd still weasel his way out of it. They're like that. Weaselly.

Know what religion I like? The Quakers. If I had to choose a branch of Christianity to follow or else die, it would be them. They're kind of like the Zen Buddhists of the Christian world. See at their Quaker meetings right, which they don't hold in a church cos they don't have churches, everyone just sits in silence. The whole room sits quietly and thinks to themselves for an hour or so, and then if you feel like saying something out loud, like maybe 'I am quite happy' or 'I like being a Quaker', you can. They're nice.

http://www.quaker.org.uk/Templates/qwHomepage.a...

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I stripped to my boxer shorts and had a quick tug at myself, so that I got a full-on Des O'Connor. I went and answered the door in my boxers and stood at an angle, so they could not miss the rager I was brandishing.

Strangely enough they declined my offer of coming in to "get comfy and chat" and never did come back to the door either.

Give it a try folks.[/quote]Do you think that would work with the cunty bastards from hydro electric?[/quote]

You should try it.

[quote comment="68651"]I don't think the example you gave is a contradiction.[/quote]

1. He gave all his money back.
2. He didn't, and bought a field with it.

Contradiction.

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I stripped to my boxer shorts and had a quick tug at myself, so that I got a full-on Des O'Connor. I went and answered the door in my boxers and stood at an angle, so they could not miss the rager I was brandishing.

Strangely enough they declined my offer of coming in to "get comfy and chat" and never did come back to the door either.

Give it a try folks.[/quote]Do you think that would work with the cunty bastards from hydro electric?

I don't think the example you gave is a contradiction.

You've taken the first verse literally. I think the first verse is about Judas having guily thoughts and spewing.

"Pitching head foremost" means to lean forward.
"Noisily burst into his midst" means the noise he made.
"His intestines were poured out" means the contents of intestines were emptied out.

Presuambly he did it in the field he purchased, which if you literally take as farmland, seems a strange purchase. But if you take a field you purchase as a space or a room, it makes more sense. The languages have been translated back and forth and the words we use have changed so much. So I wouldn't take field the way we do today.

The bible is like any other book, it tells stories to illustrate a point and it uses metaphors to do that. When it says the bible says the world was created in 7 days, does that mean literally 7 days or does it illustrate the phases of the Earth existence before Man? Its open to interpretation and hence the spectrum of denominations, religions and fights down the ages.

By taking it literally, you're doing what religious fundamentalists do. Don't trouble yourself with it. There are loads of contradiction you can get them with though.

I'm not a Christian BTW, I would say I was an atheist but that's like believe in nothing. I do believe in undeniable truth in the laws of science like Einsteinian religion that you often hear Richard Dawkins talk about.

"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." - the laddie Einstein.

King Rossco Says:

"two blonde American Jehovah Witness lassies came round one day during the summer holidays"

I remember that!! One of them was a brunette I think. Not that I've got that on good authority tho' preoccupied as I was with trying to get a swatch ae her snatch.

It seems like you know he'll go to the grave with his fingers in his ears so you should probably stop inviting him in before he drives you insane or (and?) converts you.

As beatonic says, and you probably know yourself, it will be blatant ignorance of your facts and preaching some more at you, shame that as I always have the utmost of time and respect to people that are willing to listen and have their views/opinions steered in a different direction, or to at least consider there are possible other thoughts, ie different interpretations of the bible.

Atheist as well though, personally think its all a crock of shit.

Good point.

I had a couple of Jehova's Witnesses at my door the other week and they were hitting out with some total guff. Their opening argument for the existence of god was "look at a house - a house was created by something. Everything in the world was created by something. Things didn't just come into being of their own right." To which I countered with the question of "If that's true, then who made god?"

Cunts ignored the question and instead harped on about the fact that the bible is "the most historically accurate book ever written".

I don't mind debating with these people, but it's fucking pointless because they're not going to change their minds no matter how many logical arguments you adduce in favour of atheism.

My guts "fall out" after a heavy night on the Murphy's, so maybe that explains that.

When I was about 16 or 17, living with my parents in that godless shithole Erskine, two blonde American Jehovah Witness lassies came round one day during the summer holidays. I invited them in because I thought I might get to shag one or both of them. That was pretty naive of me.

Because I was of a similar attitude to yourself Limmy and used to talk to the Jehova's Witnesses when they came to the door of my old flat, I ended up on their list of places to visit when in the area.

I used to enjoy a healthy debate and would give them their due for believing what they did and respected their opinion, even though personally I thought it was a lot of shite.

It got a bit too much though, sometimes they came twice in the one weekend and it got so, that I could actually tell it was them just by they way they knocked the door.

One Sunday afternoon, still half jaiked and with the mischief of the previous night's narcotics still in my system, I heard a familiar knock at the door. That's it I thought, how can I stop these bastards from ever coming back here again, I am fed up with the same patter, it's gone past boring and is now just annoying as fuck.

I stripped to my boxer shorts and had a quick tug at myself, so that I got a full-on Des O'Connor. I went and answered the door in my boxers and stood at an angle, so they could not miss the rager I was brandishing.

Strangely enough they declined my offer of coming in to "get comfy and chat" and never did come back to the door either.

Give it a try folks.

He'll tell ye that both those verses from the bible were probably written hundreds of years apart, and it's just a case of facts being confused due to 'chinese whispers'.